tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post1997380431226247713..comments2024-03-21T11:03:31.273-07:00Comments on CIS 471: Multimedia Learning by Richard E. MayerLarry Presshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-55336102351559225262012-04-14T06:28:43.283-07:002012-04-14T06:28:43.283-07:00Larry, Have you tried Presio? It sounds like it fi...Larry, Have you tried Presio? It sounds like it fits Mayer's ideas the best by combining PowerPoint and Video/Audio. After that, it's up to the presenter to make the PPT words short & concise and well organized.ebraunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02224751010479300814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-12572454141253955752011-05-30T11:52:55.781-07:002011-05-30T11:52:55.781-07:00Vivian wrote:
> An interesting new photoessay ...Vivian wrote:<br /><br />> An interesting new photoessay that can be used as an alternative text, for which students can be asked to comment on, etc. is Going South, Coming North: Migration and Union Organizing in Morristown, Tennessee by Fran Ansley, University of Tennessee, Knoxville<br />Anne Lewis, University of Texas, Austin<br /><br />http://southernspaces.org/2011/going-south-coming-north-migration-and-union-organizing-morristown-tennessee<br /><br />That is a terrific example -- a text-audio-video essay. Students and faculty need to learn new ways to communicate. From a faculty perspective, creating a photo essay like that should earn credit in the RTP process. See this post:<br /><br />http://cis471.blogspot.com/2011/04/faculty-retention-tenure-and-promotion.htmlLarry Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-24066655139603600462011-05-30T11:33:55.537-07:002011-05-30T11:33:55.537-07:00Vivian said:
> I do use powerpoint for some of...Vivian said:<br /><br />> I do use powerpoint for some of my lectures, and am fascinated by the ways that it can be useful for sparking critical thinking.<br /><br /><br />Tell us more about those fascinating ways you mention. In the Internet era, students and faculty need to learn to create content -- text, video, ppt, etc. And you are right on in tying this to critical thinking -- <em>we nearly always learn while trying to express or communicate an idea</em>.<br /><br />> One of the things I do in several of my classes is have students create powerpoints as a storytelling device<br /><br />Cool. Do they post them online? <br /><br />LarLarry Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-8568009767316396632011-05-30T10:50:46.873-07:002011-05-30T10:50:46.873-07:00Thanks for posting this, Larry. I do use powerpoin...Thanks for posting this, Larry. I do use powerpoint for some of my lectures, and am fascinated by the ways that it can be useful for sparking critical thinking. One of the things I do in several of my classes is have students create powerpoints as a storytelling device, with the rules being that they need to carefully select the photo or graphic for each slide, and use a maximum of 20 words per slide. They gain a lot of insight into the process of communication and the problems of finding graphics/images that are actually relevant to the thoughts and concepts they are trying to express. What I don't like to do is depend on powerpoint as the major mode of communication with the class, but rather as a way to present some of the material. PPT is a tool that can become part of the banking method of teaching--a visual alternative to the canned lecture of the past. <br />Multimedia resources are plentiful. A guide can be created by profs for students to move through online exhibits or photoessays, etc. An interesting new photoessay that can be used as an alternative text, for which students can be asked to comment on, etc. is Going South, Coming North: Migration and Union Organizing in Morristown, Tennessee by Fran Ansley, University of Tennessee, Knoxville<br />Anne Lewis, University of Texas, Austin<br /><br />http://southernspaces.org/2011/going-south-coming-north-migration-and-union-organizing-morristown-tennesseeVivianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06024267541680160377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-44003888311445560832011-05-29T13:38:07.881-07:002011-05-29T13:38:07.881-07:00Gstation said:
> Prezi
I've looked at so...Gstation said:<br /><br /><br />> Prezi<br /><br />I've looked at some Prezis, but never tried making one.<br /><br /><br />> I am not w/o sin.<br /><br />Me either!<br /><br /><br />> But that isn’t the same as critical thinking. Great books are not fancied-up PowerPoint presentations. <br /><br />For sure -- they are totally different things used for totally different reasons. I am not trying to choose between making 4 PPT presentations in a week and assigning 4 great books in a week :-).<br /><br />Thanks for the links George! I'll follow them.<br /><br />LarryLarry Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-60799742404135042222011-05-29T13:28:11.992-07:002011-05-29T13:28:11.992-07:00Richard said:
>Can you sum it up in one or two...Richard said:<br /><br />>Can you sum it up in one or two sentences. That is, what would the ideal Power Point look like? <br /><br /><br />No -- it is a function of many things -- the nature of the material, the sophistication and interest level of the consumer, the purpose of the presentation, the setting (classroom, auditorium, two person sales pitch, etc.), etc.<br /><br />I give some tips that have worked for me in the classroom in the presentation at:<br /><br />http://cis275topics.blogspot.com/2011/03/powerpoint-is-ok.html<br /><br />but I am making presentations to beginning students in a classroom where we can interact and my goal is getting them sufficiently interested in the topic to study and learn the material.Larry Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-81830323577400349462011-05-29T13:02:21.345-07:002011-05-29T13:02:21.345-07:00The PPT how-to books and the many sites with prese...The PPT how-to books and the many sites with presentation tips are fine. Other slide (or "slide") tools such as Prezi are doing their best to breathe some new life into the dry legacy style. I like the approach even though I'm not skilled with them yet.<br /><br />There is too much truth in "Death by PowerPoint" in what I've observed from many educators & business folks using it for the wrong purposes-- and I am not w/o sin.<br /><br />FYI I'm not <i>totally</i> anti. But I do want my students to be able to pick from a range which may include PPT as one option of many. It should not be the default, and right now it is with most of us and most students. Your approach and analysis is not that typical. Coming back to PPT after due consideration of what you want to present is not the same as just using it because it's handy.<br /><br />Turkle says in <a href="http://nieman.harvard.edu/reports/article/102403/Digital-Demands-The-Challenges-of-Constant-Connectivity.aspx" rel="nofollow">one recent interview</a>: "PowerPoints are about simple, communicable ideas illustrated by powerful images, and there’s a place for that. But that isn’t the same as critical thinking. Great books are not fancied-up PowerPoint presentations. Great books take you through an argument, show how the argument is weak, meet objections, and show a different point of view. By the time you’re through with all that, you’re way beyond the simplicities of PowerPoint.<br /><br />"Computers are seductive; computers are appealing. There’s no harm in using the seductive and appealing to draw people in, to get them in their seats, and to begin a conversation. The question is, what happens after that?"<br /><br />Most of the time, nothing happens after that.<br /><br />Here are the two Turkle articles I have used-- there are more (and more scholarly) out there. I sometimes have freshmen read these. (Via our databases, not scanned PDFs.)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mit.edu/~sturkle/pdfsforstwebpage/ST_From%20powerful%20ideas%20to%20powerpoint.pdf" rel="nofollow">From Powerful Ideas to PowerPoint</a> (see esp. section "Presentation as its own powerful idea")<br /><br /><a href="http://web.mit.edu/sturkle/www/pdfsforstwebpage/Turkle_how_computers_change_way_we_think.pdf" rel="nofollow">How Computers Change the Way We Think</a>Gstationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867144468141208956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-34461206853227927432011-05-29T12:57:24.486-07:002011-05-29T12:57:24.486-07:00Can you sum it up in one or two sentences. That i...Can you sum it up in one or two sentences. That is, what would the ideal Power Point look like? Would it contain text, graphics and voice or just text and graphics? Would only some (what percentage?) have voice?richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04985873118883723878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-62223115117002757772011-05-29T11:45:20.853-07:002011-05-29T11:45:20.853-07:00Gstarion said:
> this is worth checking out
T...Gstarion said:<br /><br />> this is worth checking out<br /><br />There are also a lot of PPT "how-to" books, but this one is based in experimental research.<br /><br /><br />> influenced not just by Tufte<br /><br />It seems to me that Tufte's graphics are often geared toward focused study rather than illustrations in an audience presentation. <br /><br />My compromise is to use concise, Mayer-like material for a presentation before an audience, and also provide written detail and links to other things for subsequent study at one's own pace.<br /><br />One also has to adjust the sophistication of the audience and the purpose of the presentation. I would use Tufte-like material in a presentation before experts who were deeply involved -- say a scientific presentation or one to serious investors -- and the more concise Mayer-like material in a presentation to students in an intro course.<br /><br /><br />> Sherry Turkle<br /><br />I am unfamiliar with her views of PPT -- have you any links? (BTW -- just the other day, I watched a video of her giving a PPT presentation at a conference :-).<br /><br />> not to change how the tool is used but to change tools.<br /><br />What are some other good presentation tools?<br /><br />Larry<br /><br />PS -- I spelled out some of my PPT guidelines in the presentation at:<br /><br />http://cis275topics.blogspot.com/2011/03/powerpoint-is-ok.htmlLarry Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903269871983592883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18164409.post-7838290915301133702011-05-28T10:51:03.590-07:002011-05-28T10:51:03.590-07:00Larry, I'm one of those "skeptical of Pow...Larry, I'm one of those "skeptical of PowerPoint" folks so this is worth checking out-- thanks for the review. I'm influenced not just by Tufte, but by Sherry Turkle, whose perspective is different but is also anti-PowerPoint. I guess in each case the claim is that PowerPoint (as most people use it) tends to restrict the presented info too much, and dumbs down the recipient's thinking about that info. This applies even in education, even at tech & educator conferences where new, exciting things are supposed to happen. :-) Their solution (writ large, exceptions noted) is not to change how the tool is used but to change tools.Gstationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10867144468141208956noreply@blogger.com